Dutchsinse Update: Borderline TROPICAL DEPRESSION heading towards Daytona Beach, Florida


That storm does not look natural at all, I’m surprised Dutch didn’t do a HAARP ring examination of that system. If you look at the clouds you can see well defined half circles following the system almost in waves, does anyone else see that?

If you take pictures as requested below, please send them to Dutch at his Dutchsinse YouTube channel – thank you! Annette

“6/1/2011 315am CST: If ANYONE lives in the area, try to get pictures of the system as sunrise hits!!

What appears to be a borderline tropical depression has formed of the east coast of the United States.. and is heading in a brisk southwest direction towards the city of Daytona Beach Florida…

In between Daytona Beach and Jacksonville FL as it appears right now.

Currently the NWS only has “strong cell” listed for this.. and NO warnings.. it appears to be gathering power and steaming south to the coast.

We shall see what actually arrives in Daytona Beach… if anything.

Keep an eye on this one.

much love to one another

dutchsinse

Dutchsinse Forecast: Strange Mystery object?! Plus, HAARP Rings and Cones over TX, OK, MO, AR, NE, IA, MI = 24-48hrs


Don’t know what to think about the mystery object?! That thing almost acts alive, like a giant worm in the sky. OK..get your tin foil hat on folks….alright, ready?

Just yesterday I got sidetracked watching UFO, alien video’s and saw several video’s of alleged UFO’s  in Mexico that looked like a giant, massive worm like object wiggling in the sky. This thing was huge, miles in length and the kind of technology that I seriously doubt earthlings have managed to back engineer.

Whatever Dutch spotted here could be linked to the objects in the skies over Mexico, then again maybe not. Sure would be nice if we had an honest government that properly informed it’s citizens about the universe, solar system and world we lived in because it certainly appears they know a helluva a lot more than they’re letting on. Gets tricky trying to figure this stuff out on our own sometimes, because life sure is turning out to be stranger than fiction…science fiction to be precise.

From: dutchsinse  | May 30, 2011
Space shuttle? x37-B spacecraft drone? What is the mystery object?

Expect severe weather in the below mentioned HAARP ring effected areas within 24-48 hours from now.. 145am CST 5/31/2011 –

Also here are a few weather monitoring sites:

http://solarimg.org/artis/
http://weather.cod.edu/satrad/index.php

http://www.intellicast.com/Local/WxMapFull.aspx

http://wdssii.nssl.noaa.gov/web/wdss2/products/radar/

http://arrc.ou.edu/~boonleng/urefrac/

http://livewxradar.com/

http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~ovens/loops/

http://socc.caps.ou.edu/

http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/radar/

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/srh/tropicalwx/satpix/nwpac_ir4_l…

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/CT/animate.arctic.color.0.html

http://squall.sfsu.edu/crws/jetstream.html

http://hurricane.ncdc.noaa.gov/pls/plhas/HAS.FileAppSelec…

Mystery object shows up on RADAR and also the HAARP ring forecast.

Amarillo Texas

Topeka Kansas

Wichita Kansas

North of North Platte Nebraksa at Hwy 97 & Hwy 2

Sioux Falls South Dakota

Huron and Aberdeen / Redfield South Dakota

Oklahoma City Oklahoma

Kansas City MO

Salina KS

Columbia Missouri east to St. Louis

Des Moines Iowa

Duluth Minnesota

Dutchsinse Seismic Update: 4.0 in Puerto Rico


Useful links partially related (more links in next post):
ttp://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/archive/index_ssa.html

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=elenin;orb=1;cov=1;…

http://solarimg.org/artis/

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes…

http://iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080/IswaSystemWebApp/

http://helioviewer.org/

http://space.rice.edu/ISTP/#RT

http://www.japanquakemap.com/week

http://www.sky-map.org/

http://www.astrosurf.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/028619.html

http://www2.nict.go.jp/y/y223/simulation/realtime/home.html

http://www2.nict.go.jp/y/y223/simulation/realtime/movie.html

http://pixie.spasci.com/

http://pixie.spasci.com/DynMod/

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/latestimages.html

http://www.stormsurfing.com/cgi/display_alt.cgi?a=glob_250

http://aurora.phys.ucalgary.ca/

http://spaceweather.com/

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/hotshots/2010_12_14/

http://www.hamqsl.com/solar.html

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes…

http://www.noao.edu/nsf/presentations/FACILITIES/THF09a%2…

http://www.eiscat.se/groups/EISCAT_3D_info/Deliverable_D1…

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:XgAQ…

Dutchsinse: Global Earthquake and Volcano Overview


Uploaded by on May 30, 2011

http://folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu/heli/heli_sp_mkta/

http://folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu/heli_bb_slu/

http://folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu/heli/heli_sp_nmad/

http://folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu/heli/heli_sp_athn/

http://folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu/heli/heli_sp_lnxt/

http://folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu/heli/heli_sp_mttn/

http://folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu/heli/heli_sp_ceri/

http://folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu/heli/heli_uky/

http://quake.crowe.co.nz/Mobile/

http://aslwww.cr.usgs.gov/Seismic_Data/telemetry_data/

http://www.oe-files.de/gmaps/eqmashup.html

http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/volcanocams/msh/

http://pasadena.wr.usgs.gov/webicorder/

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/monitoring/anss/

http://aslwww.cr.usgs.gov/Seismic_Data/telemetry_data/map_sta_eq.shtml

http://www.earthquakes.bgs.ac.uk/helicorder/heli.html

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/

http://aslwww.cr.usgs.gov/Seismic_Data/heli2.shtml

http://download.cnet.com/Earthquake-3D/3000-2054_4-10395116.html

http://www.volcano.si.edu/reports/usgs/

http://hawaii.wr.usgs.gov/

http://cnt.rm.ingv.it/earthquakes_map.php

http://www.emsc-csem.org/Earthquake/Map/jsmap.php?key=1&typ=world

http://www.emsc-csem.org/Earthquake/index.php

http://www.emsc-csem.org/Earthquake/Map/index.php

http://earthquakescanada.nrcan.gc.ca/recent/maps-cartes/index-eng.php

http://www.goandroam.com/webcams/japan/mt_fuji

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/monitoring/netquakes/

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/monitoring/netquakes/station/NQ079_NM_01/

http://www.showme.net/~fkeller/quake/maps.htm

http://www.nps.gov/yell/photosmultimedia/webcams.htm

http://www.pnsn.org/WEBICORDER/BETTER/pnsn_staweb/index.html

http://www.quake.utah.edu/helicorder/

http://tux.wr.usgs.gov/

http://mbmgquake.mtech.edu/earthworm/wavef_disp/current/welcome.html

http://www.isthisthingon.org/Yellowstone/daythumbs.php

http://www.nps.gov/yell/photosmultimedia/webcams.htm

http://www.fujigoko.tv/live/shotList.cgi

Dutchsinse Forecast & Confirmation: HAARP Rings formed in Amarillo 24 hours ago now Severe Weather moving in, plus more Rings


Uploaded by on May 31, 2011

here is the Original HAARP ring video from 1145pm 3/30/2011 .. calling for severe weather to hit Amarillowithin 24-48 hours .. hail up to tornadoes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_wEiux41p4

see it happen now. 26 hours later… on intellicast.. severe has formed and is hitting Amarillo specifically!! 134am CST 6/1/2011

http://www.intellicast.com/Local/WxMapFull.aspx

ALERT – HAARP Signatures over Southern Indiana and New Madrid region “Be Prepared, Not Scared”


Originally Henning thought it happened over Wisconsin (2nd video), but apparently the guy who sent him the information retracted and said it was over southern Indiana – which means they’re  continuing to target the New Madrid region.

A quake could happen tomorrow, or sometime in the future. With all the water weight from flooding the constant rains and now the expanding and contracting from heat variations arising from the thermodynamics created by HAARP fluctuations, it may not be long before the sandstone in the earths crust mixes with water and oil from the Gulf turning the land to mush in the process of liquefaction. See video links below on “Gas, New Madrid and Yellowstone”, “Gulf Oil Spill, Destruction of America”  for more information’ also see “Fracking” category in column on the left. Thank you! Annette

Uploaded by on May 27, 2011

Wisconsin Picture
http://twitpic.com/53ac61

HAARP
http://maestro.haarp.alaska.edu/cgi-bin/scmag/disp-scmag.cgi

Satellite Loop
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/goes/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/110527_g13_vi…

Mysterious sinkholes have residents fleeing QC neighborhood
http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/2011/05/27/mysterious-sinkholes-ha…

HAARP
http://maestro.haarp.alaska.edu/cgi-bin/scmag/disp-scmag.cgi?date=20110522&am…

Intellicast weather
http://www.intellicast.com/Local/WxMap.aspx?location=USNV0076&weather=hdR…

NOAA Weather
http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/full_loop.php

THIS IS NOT A DRILL – ITS TIME.
IT WILL BE MOMENTOUS, BEYOND IMAGINATION.
YOU NEED TO MAKE THE ULTIMATE DECISION.
BEEN WARNING YOU FOR 10 MONTHS NOW!

ITS TIME!

HAARP – New Madrid Quake Iminent – FEMA RISING – Pt 1 of 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnNCFvKw4_s

HAARP – New Madrid Quake Iminent – FEMA RISING – Pt 2 of 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvjKbi4M900

New Madrid – Gas – Yellowstone and The Gulf of Mexico Pt 1 of 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8H5o6AnwW0&feature=related

New Madrid – Gas – Yellowstone and The Gulf of Mexico Pt 2 of 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIF-h34_uuQ

Gulf Oil Spill – The Destruction of America – Explained
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfG4k5lpwtc

GOD BLESS

Elma and Henning

Thank you for everything you did for me.
Always treasured. But it is time……..

Warning Alert Strange Skies *WW3 Started?*


From: photohelix  | May 28, 2011

Original video by: http://www.youtube.com/user/getovd
Strange things in Appleton Wisconsin. Is this a scalar weapon in operation or possibly the HAARP program in action?
Gog/Magog on the horizon? Be sure to subscribe to Carneyart, getovd, thedailyconspiracy, 2010Thecountdown, Weatherornut, pdlumina, theshowmebby, and TiborasaurusRex

What Has America Become ?


Staged Alien Invasion Update May 27


Paris discusses the upcoming staged alien threat adjustments as society begins to affect the outcome. People have no idea how much innate co-creative power we possess to change our world, especially when we’re united in thought and action. Unity is a powerful force, which is why the “divide and conquer” tactic is a key psychological weapon used against peoples and nations alike.

All we have to do is Unite as a community in “common-unity” and we can overcome anything we’re faced with. Humans are amazing, we always at our best when faced with adversity. Which is why it’s important to get the knowledge out on Project Blue Beam.  So we can let as many people as possible know that the rulers of the world are planning a false flag alien invasion,  that way even the non-believers will have the information to fall back on IF it happens.

Several months back a credible source in the whistle-blower movement said that the false flag invasion ultimately won’t be successful, that they will fail at their attempts to pull it off. Apparently White Hats behind the scenes are in place who plan to sabotage the whole “alien ‘invasion” scenario thru technology, so they won’t succeed at pulling it off – for Project Blue Beam to work it also has to be believable. If Jesus in the sky starts speaking in wild tongues,  starts shorting out, flickering or his head explodes that’s going to cause some credibility issues.

So like Swine Flu and many other things the NWO is failing at, the likelihood of a successful fake alien invasion is slim at this point.

Everything ultimately goes back to trust in Spirit and the power of thought to create reality, or some might even say the power of faith. As Paris implies, all we have to do is say ENOUGH en masse! And things will change, instead we submit to the wars, we submit to financial robbery from world bankers, we submit to all kinds of loss of freedom basically out of fear. When we need to stand up in our power, in non-compliance to this system of tyranny sucking the life blood out of humanity and the Mother Earth like a huge vampire squid.

As soon as we all stand up and decide we’re not going along with it any longer, things will automatically change and we’ll get the assistance we need to get out of this mess. But as long as apathy has a hold of the masses and we keep enabling, or allowing the rulers to continue their wars, to keep pillaging the earth and destroying the environment we get what we deserve. No one wants to help those who don’t help themselves, whereas those who really put forth an effort to change for the better always get the assistance they need.

Baby born with two faces, four eyes, two noses, two mouths


Leuren Moret in the interview with ExopoliticsTV below on radiation contamination as a form of genocide, discuss ‘s how the British have used depleted uranium in India where they have contaminated huge areas of the countryside. I would venture to guess that the baby with two faces below is not so much a goddess as the result of mutated DNA and birth deformities.

ITN is now on Facebook at http://on.fb.me/itnfb!! Baby with two faces hailed as goddess.

Follow us on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/itn

ExopoliticsTV with Robert M. Stanley on Elite controllers, ET-UFOs in Washington DC, and disclosure


From: ExopoliticsTV  | May 16, 2011

Robert M. Stanley: Elite controllers, ET/UFOs in Washington, DC and disclosure

In an exclusive ExopoliticsTV interview with Alfred Lambremont Webre released May 16, 2011 America’s Morning News correspondent Robert M. Stanley, author of Covert Encounters in Washington, DC, has revealed how unethical extraterrestrial and inter-dimensional entities manipulate terrestrial elite “controllers” of the human population in finance, politics, media, religion, and in governmental and public events in Washington, DC.

http://www.unicusmagazine.com/p2_2.htm

With regard to the inter-dimensional extraterrestrials around Washington, DC, Mr. Stanley has stated, “We are dealing with a shape-shifting ET that is apparently known to the U.S. government.”

Mr. Stanley reveals how the masonic layout of Washington, DC’s architecture and infrastructure is used as a “dimensional” mind control panel by unethical inter-dimensional lower-order extraterrestrials, for the manipulation and control of the worldwide permanent war economy and arms industry by manipulating the war-industry decision-making processes in Washington, DC.

Read full article at:

http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/robert-m-s…

ExopoliticsTV – Leuren Moret exposes Fukushima-HAARP bankers, partners, sponsors, money trail


Uploaded by on May 30, 2011

See more interviews/articles with Leuren Moret
http://bit.ly/ex7wZZ

Dutchsinse Severe Forecast: Storms and possible Tornado heading towards NEW YORK CITY


From: dutchsinse  | May 29, 2011
As of 110am CST a possible tornado listed on titan storm tracking via intellicast.com. heading towards New York City , NY .

http://www.intellicast.com

much love to one another

dutchsinse

Two large eruptions past two days at Volcano Sakurajima, Japan


Towards the last half of the video, take a look at the UFO’s, orbs or plasma balls in the top two video’s. They’re barely visible on the edge of the fourth video.

Also, right before  the volcano explodes a very bright flash occurs to the right of the camera on the first video. Does anyone have any idea what that is?

Androids Among Us, Synthetic Humans walking in our Midsts


Synthetic humans, better known as androids are not a new concept or idea originating from episodes from Star Trek.  Project Camelot’s  Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy on more than one occasion have discussed the existence of synthetic humans in interviews with high level whistle blowers from top secret, black ops space programs and the fact that there is literally an army of synthetic humans in outer space being created by off world entities. The question is who and for what purpose?

At one point this film resonated so strongly with me, it caused a strong physical reaction in my gut. Which  to be honest, I can’t ever remember happening like that before – it was almost a sick feeling.  Surely some people will have a difficult time with this video, it’s easy to shrug this off as an overactive imagination or in the realm of  guys wearing tin foil hats. But, I wouldn’t be so quick to judge. Especially when you become aware of the level of technology some of these inter-dimensional and inter-galactic civilizations are at, they are capable of things that are way beyond our level of comprehension.

To even get a grasp of what’s happening on Earth you must open your mind to possibility’s that were once relegated to the realms of Science Fiction. Since it appears that much of what’s been going on behind the scenes has been passed on to Sci-Fi writers of Hollywood films, books and even comic book magazines.  All as part of the Psy-ops or psychological operations implemented by the CIA in the late 50′s as a way to cover-up nefarious activity’s going on behind the scenes with the military industrial complex, back engineering UFO’s and the secret space programs  involved with ET’s and in the black ops projects.

In regards to the video documentary below, when you take a look at Lieberman’s track record he certainly hasn’t worked in favor of humanity’s best interests. He’s worked both sides of the fence and at one point even came close to securing a run for the Vice Presidency, seems like after that failed he really started causing problems for the Democrats. Makes you wonder how many other android’s have successfully made it to the oval office.

Synopsis
The next big discovery is not new, this discovery has been on television. This discovery has a wardrobe closet and eats breakfast. You will find it nearly impossible to accept the validity of this discovery, but according to the Canadian man who made the discovery, there are actual living androids on Capitol Hill. And he has the evidence. The DVD Androids Among Us is now available here:

http://www.tosenbooks.ca/androids_among_us_video.html

Mystery Boom Shakes Northeast Philly NBC Philadelphia


Normally earthquakes don’t cause booms, it’s the booms that cause the earthquakes.  Could this have been an incoming meteor strike? Underground construction or something going  on with a deep underground military base?

Uploaded by on May 28, 2011

“The beginning of Memorial Day Weekend reportedly came with a loud bang in Northeast Philadelphia Friday night.

“It was just a shake.. no one knows what it is,” said witness Scott Ellison.

People all over the Northeast and in nearby places like Bensalem, Pa. were reporting having heard an explosion or boom in the area of Knights and Fairdale Road around 9:35 p.m., according to the Philadelphia Fire Department.

Some witnesses even claimed to feel their houses shake.

“The house vibrated several times,” said witness Phil Steinman.

As of midnight there were no apparent damage or signs of an explosion.

Authorities reportedly contacted the U.S. Geological Survey to see if this could have possibly been an earthquake. A sonic boom was also being considered as a possible cause.

If it was a quake it wouldn’t be the first one to hit the area this month. A magnitude 1.9 quake was reported by the USGS near Mount Holly, N.J. around 4:20 a.m. on May 10.

Chopper 10 caught dozens of emergency vehicles rushing towards and in the area of the scene — near the Franklin Mills Mall — but there were no visible signs of any explosion despite the reports.

The exact spot where the boom occurred wasn’t clear, officials said.

Earlier this year 19-year-old PGW worker Mark Keeley was killed after a massive gas explosion in the Tacony section of Northeast Philly. There are no signs as of now of this most recent event being gas related.

As of 11 p.m. PGW had found no leaks, officials said. And PECO had no reports of power outages in the area.

There were no immediate reports of injuries.”

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/breaking/Northeast-Philly-Event-122757869…

Dutchsinse Forecast: Large HAARP Ring @ Warsaw to Fort Wayne Indiana, Severe Weather in 24-48 hours


Uploaded by on May 29, 2011

This massive ring appeared on multiple RADAR views.. from intellicast, weather.gov nexrad, and accuweather.

Within 24-48 hours from now…Expect severe weather up to and including tornadoes at the center of the ring—- the time at which it appeared and the forecast beghins is approx 950pm CST 5/29/2011 .

Mirrored: HAARP cached website discovered, ADMITS weather modification!


Get your pen & paper ready, he provides a link to this site at the end of the video…

Day 78 Fukushima Daiichi: “Worse than Chernobyl…will release Radioactive steam for more than a year”


From: connectingdots1  | May 27, 2011

“Just Download Paltalk” at http://www.paltalk.com/ and join us at “Future of things according to Web bots” here: http://www.paltalk.com/g2/group/1365402390/DisplayGroupDe…

“CNN: Reactors may be “riddled with holes” — Experts suspect full meltdown at No. 1, 2 and 3″
http://enenews.com/cnn-reactors-may-be-riddled-with-holes…

“Nuclear Super Typhoon? Massive storm may approach Fukushima this weekend — Current gusts of 195 mph”
http://enenews.com/nuclear-super-typhoon-massive-storm-hi…

“US Navy forecast shows super typhoon may hit Fukushima plant — TEPCO “still considering typhoon measures”
http://enenews.com/us-navy-forecast-shows-super-typhoon-m…

“Nuclear expert: Fukushima “has turned even worse than it was in Chernobyl” — “Appears to have fit into the worst predicted scenario”
http://enenews.com/nuclear-expert-fukushima-has-turned-ev…

“Academics warn that TEPCO has failed to disclose scale of radiation leaks — Gov’t to release details at “appropriate time”
http://enenews.com/academics-warn-tepco-has-failed-to-dis…

“Highest radiation dose yet at Reactor No. 1 at 204 Sieverts per hour in drywell”
http://enenews.com/radiation-dose-reactor-1-hits-new-high…
“Radiation Death chart”
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WaOIw1tGdmU/TaIEEI5OkuI/AAAAAAA…

“Fukushima reactors will be releasing radioactive steam for a year or more: US nuclear official”
http://enenews.com/fukushima-reactors-will-be-releasing-r…

“Grave Danger: Concern over more massive failure of containment systems at Fukushima”
http://enenews.com/grave-danger-concern-over-more-massive…

“Academics warn that TEPCO has failed to disclose scale of radiation leaks — Gov’t to release details at “appropriate time”
http://enenews.com/academics-warn-tepco-has-failed-to-dis…

http://www.eurad.uni-koeln.de/
http://www.eurad.uni-koeln.de/index.html

“Long-lived fission product”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-lived_fission_product

Jobless Discrimination? When Firms Won’t Even Consider Hiring Anyone Unemployed


Ed. note: Yes, your illustrious editor is also a 99′er+ after losing my full time job in Los Angeles as a Sales Manager for DirecTV in 2008, and have been struggling to find full time work ever since. Reports like the following are very discouraging to say the least, especially since I’m in the 45+ age group.  I’ve considered asking for donations here, but don’t want to turn people off or give anyone the wrong impression by doing so.

Seems like those who ask for donations or even $1 for a monthly subscription, are often chastised for doing so. When most people who just read these blogs, have no idea how much time and effort goes into the research that keeps the information flowing. If anyone has feedback from the viewers perspective, your comments would be much appreciated. Thank you, Annette

By Adam Cohen

When Sony Ericsson needed new workers after it relocated its U.S. headquarters to Atlanta last year, its recruiters told one particular group of applicants not to bother. “No unemployed candidates will be considered at all,” one online job listing said.

The cell-phone giant later said the listing, which produced a media uproar, had been a mistake. But other companies continue to refuse to even consider the unemployed for jobs — a harsh catch-22 at a time when long-term joblessness is at its highest level in decades. (See TIME’s video “What It Took to Create a Job for One Bright Engineer.”)

Refusing to hire people on the basis of race, religion, age or disability — among other categories — is illegal. But companies that turn away jobless people as a group are generally not breaking the law — at least for now.

Job seekers have long known, of course, that it’s easier to land a job when you are still working. There are no hard data on discrimination against the unemployed. But there have been reports from across the country of companies’ making clear in job listings that they are not interested in people who are out of work. Employment experts say other companies have policies of hiring only people with jobs — but do not publicly acknowledge their bias.

At an Equal Employment Opportunity Commission hearing this year, Christine Owens, executive director of the National Employment Law Project, declared that “excluding the unemployed” is “becoming business as usual.” Owens testified about a 55-year-old California woman who had applied for a job as a software-systems engineer. The recruiter for the position was enthusiastic until she learned that the woman had been out of work for six months. At that point, she told the woman she could not forward her résumé to the hiring company. (See TIME’s video “Why Young Vets Have Trouble Finding Work.”)

The apparent uptick in such incidents couldn’t come at a worse time for the unemployed. The Great Recession has produced an unusually large number of long-term jobless. Forty percent of the nation’s unemployed — some 4.4 million people — have been out of work for a year or more, the highest level since World War II. The long-term unemployed have far more difficulty finding work than people who have left the workforce more recently. The problem is worst for workers over 50, who often face age discrimination as well.

Some employers argue that they have a perfectly reasonable right to weed out the unemployed and that it is just good business. People who have lost jobs or have never been hired are less qualified as a group than those who are currently working, they say. People who are out of the workforce for a significant period of time may also have fallen behind in skills.

See TIME’s special “Out of Work in America.”

But advocates for the unemployed argue that in this economy there is no basis for negative inferences about people who are out of work. Many lost jobs for economic reasons or general corporate downsizing, not through any fault of their own. In a stronger job market, many would have found new jobs long ago.

These advocates also say that allowing companies to discriminate against the jobless is fundamentally unfair and threatens to condemn millions of Americans to permanent underclass status.

Unfair or bad policy, perhaps, but is it illegal? Federal civil rights laws do not protect the unemployed as a class, but some legal experts make a case that refusing to consider them for jobs is illegal. Policies that discriminate against jobless people, they argue, often discriminate against African Americans, Hispanics, Native Americans and disabled people — groups whose members are all more likely than average to be unemployed. (See the 20 most — and least — lucrative majors.)

The Supreme Court has said that policies that appear to be neutral on their face can violate the Civil Rights Act of 1964 if they have a “disparate impact” on protected minority groups. But lawyers for employers claim that policies that discriminate against the unemployed do not have enough of a disproportionate impact on protected minorities to meet the high standard the Supreme Court has set for disparate-impact claims.

And they’re probably right. Ending discrimination against the unemployed would most likely require new laws. In Congress, Representative Hank Johnson, a Georgia Democrat, has introduced the Fair Employment Act of 2011, which would amend the Civil Rights Act to make it illegal for employers to refuse to hire people simply because of their employment status.

In that respect, as in so many others, the states are starting to pull ahead of Washington. In March, New Jersey became the first state to adopt a law making it illegal to post job listings that make current employment a condition of applying or being hired. Several other states are considering similar laws. (See why teens are suffering most in the down economy.)

Antidiscrimination law is tricky: there is no easy formula to determine which groups should be protected. As a nation, we have decided that race, sex, religion, national origin and disability should be protected classes, and we are getting there on sexual orientation.

Traditionally, the unemployed — who can, after all, give up membership in the group in an instant if they get a job offer — have not been regarded as a protected class. But as the Great Recession rages on and the plight of the long-term unemployed becomes more desperate, that may be about to change.

Cohen, a former TIME writer and a former member of the New York Times editorial board, is a lawyer who teaches at Yale Law School. Case Study, his legal column for TIME.com, appears every Monday.